下下芥見真的有說過這話嗎?

在Reddit 上看到,但我印象中完全沒有看到過他有說過這話:/
也沒有找到這話的相關日語出處也沒有中文翻譯文本

即使Google 醜寶為什麼喊夏油 「媽媽」,我都沒有搜到這解釋

我就純粹好奇這是真的Iv 原話還是某些人的扭造?謝謝

Gege Akutami

Recently, I’ve been thinking that it is entirely possible that Geto Suguru could become impregnated with a curse in very odd curcumstances because of how his cursed technique works. I decided this only applies to weaker curses which wouldn’t be very reasonable for him to use!

Gege Akutami: The nature of Geto’s cursed technique allows him to store curses in his stomach, which is very reminiscent of pregnancies and actually the reason why Toji’s worm mistook him for its mother. Papa Geto could also be Mama Geto under the right circumstances, haha.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/comments/1bipkq7/reminder_that_homosexualsquared_has_talked_about/

akutami 从来没有说过这些。这只是一个虚假的采访,由于内容太离谱而迅速传播开来,而且推特上的 goges 都将其视为事实。这里的朋友们可能不知道,因为他们不使用推特,但这个消息是由推特上的一个 goge 传播的,他因骚扰 gego 用户而出名。我个人也被他们欺负过。他们喜欢传播类似这样的错误信息,并声称这是真实的或经典的内容,但 gegos 对此无能为力,因为这个账户和他们的朋友有很多粉丝,任何反对他们的人都会被骚扰,甚至收到死亡威胁。因此,有时路人会误解并相信他们的话,因为他们的帖子得到了大量的关注,因为他们有大量的追随者。这也导致错误信息在普通粉丝中传播。即使从逻辑上讲,这也是说不通的。当你吞下食物时,它会进入你的胃,从解剖学上讲,它是消化系统的一部分。子宫是生殖系统的一部分,它们之间没有任何关系,在身体内部也没有办法互相联系。

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謝謝,我在x上有看過逆家因為抄襲無授權轉日本繒手的圖被不同派路的人diss,但我沒有長期關注x ,平日都是頂多ao3 上看文,所以才對這個感到十分疑感,因為就明明沒有看過iv 說過這樣荒謬的話啊?!
還是在reddit 上看到才傻眼了,而且留言區都完全沒有人說這是假的。貌似tiktok都看到這群人有在放啊?!
沒有最 無恥只有更無恥來應形容這群人是最適合不過了
但歐美應該是夏五檔比 逆家 人多勢眾吧?因為我在ao3 看到夏五的文是比逆家多出不少啊?都要被這群人欺負?看來逆家哪里都是一樣噁心,我之前萌的其他cp 都沒有看到無恥到編造這樣的東西來騙人

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最近还有一位非常大的 goge 作家被曝光逐字逐句抄袭原作,只是把 satoru 和 suguru 的名字互换了,这位作者和他们的追随者就是经常骚扰 gego 作家写“ooc”的人,而他们甚至不写自己的文字。我们已经厌倦了推特上的这一面很长时间了。然而,因为他们太受欢迎了,他们随口说的很多话都会被当成事实,这就是它传播到 reddit 和 tiktok 等地方的原因,没有人会去质疑它。既然你在 ao3 上,你可能看到了那个被标记为 gego 的作品,但实际上是一个 goge,他只是想让人们写更多的底层 geto,它引起了很多天的争议。虽然它被说成是 goges 的愤怒诱饵,但作品里说的一切都是由推特上真正的 goge 写的。他们甚至说 gegos 嫉妒 geto 的“母性本能”,这就是为什么 gegos 都是“没有女人味和不育的”,他们攻击的是公开表示有生育问题的真正的 gego 用户。他们中的许多人是厌恶女性的,并使用厌恶女性和恐跨性别者的推理说“geto 是一个正统的女人”或“geto 有子宫”,所以请不要被他们盲目误导。很抱歉说了这么久,这真的很令人沮丧,因为很多 gegos 都知道我们无法阻止错误信息的传播,他们甚至在推特上欺负所有人,因为报告按钮没有帮助。

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gego 在英文粉丝圈中不如 goge 那么受欢迎,但我们有更多的作家,而且 gojo 甚至在 satosugu 之外也拥有更多的人,这就是为什么 ao3 统计数据偏向底层 satoru。在推特上,goge 账户比 gego 多得多,他们会积极让他们的追随者大量引用转发或回复,发送匿名仇恨,甚至有时尝试人肉搜索。gegos 不会参与此类行为,所以除了举报之外,我们没有其他反击方式。

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這個我知道啊:joy:我還看到逆家拿最新的guidebook 的身高設定圖連五的頭髮算上說他和夏有10cm 的身高差,還有拿夏的束腰圖 說是什麼slutty waist/ fertile hips, 這群人都是些只有百幾到幾百人的followers 有些甚至是剛開戶,我都懷疑她們是否一直在開水號在洗自己有多勢重,我還看到一篇文在ao3 叫人多寫goge,然後逆家都是用匿名在留言區起洗地
只能說這群人自己騙自己著樂就夠了
其實自從去年第二季動畫開始我就覺得x 上怪怪的多了很叫夏油媽媽的號,但我都block掉了因為太刺眼

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你都這是拿洋妹的直接機翻嗎?這些我都能看啊,謝謝你的回復告知,x 上我也有在follow 幾個夏五的號,這些有時都看到她們在說,但這個無造iv影射 夏懷孕的說法 還是今天無意中看到才問的,謝謝

是的,他们又一次用指南和 geto 的腰来传播错误信息了,哈哈。最受欢迎的 goge 账户都有超过 5,000 名粉丝,其中一个最大的煽动者有 13,000 多名粉丝。这些甚至还不包括 goge 的艺术家或作家账户,这些只是喜欢谈论 goge 和开玩笑的 meme 账户。后来出名的“geto 是母亲”这件事的原因是,有另一个名为 getoswomb 的大账户写了一篇长帖,讲述了 geto 由于阴阳而成为经典女性,说这是因为佛教,而那些是道教概念…这个账户以恐惧变性和厌恶女性而闻名,但自从那条帖子以来,每个 goge 都用它来解释为什么 geto 是“经典底层”。

是的,我正在使用翻译来交谈,如果有些信息不清楚,请原谅!另外,没问题,我希望我的解释很好!

沒事就一個交流 吧
其實我覺得夏五這對很多意義上都是借薦 火影的鳴佐鳴
my one and only 就是鳴佐鳴最著名的梗,再加上陰陽的映射:joy:
那堆陰陽的解釋只能說逆家都是亂來 ,因為在日本神教學中陰陽的性別像徵和中國是反著來的,而咒術的創作背景明顯是以日本的佛教來的吧,那些以中國陰陽來解釋的逆家我只能當笑話看了
像徵陽的太陽神 天照大神 是女神來的 ,像徵陰的月讀神是男氏神明來的,以陰陽來說,五應該是陽,夏是陰

我认为 akutami 之前曾说过他从其他系列中汲取了很多灵感,所以我确信 gego 实际上很大程度上是基于 narusasu 的。我不知道日本神道教中阴阳颠倒的事情!!谢谢你告诉我!我以前从未关注过这个论点,因为 goges 使用文化和宗教原因来解释为什么一个角色应该被视为底层,这对我来说有点愚蠢,也几乎是不尊重。为什么不承认你喜欢他们作为底层,只是因为你喜欢它并且认为它很热?你不需要用“正典”来证明这一点,因为无论如何这都是同人小说,原作中没有正典的顶部或底部

i have seen you asked a chinese fanfic in another post and you mentioned you were from america. we can talk in English though my english might not be good. Actually i saw some of goges twisted gege’s word to attack gojo, that was the main reason makes me pissed off at them.
i could not understand why they join a ship when they have so much hate towards gojo. even the geto fans from china blamed on gojo did not pay more attention to geto’s well being before he broke down. in the recent guidebook, the voice actor of geto expressed that geto distanted himself from gojo after gojo became more strengthful, he did not value gojo as his lucky charm to balance him from absorbing curse anymore. i think geto’s attitude to gojo was similar to nanami at this point. nanami just voiced out what geto thought of gojo after the death of haibara at the mourge, ‘let’s throaw all assignments to gojo since he was the strongest’
the confliction and self-doubt were the main reasons lead geto down the spiral, and they made geto charming to me as characteration.
it might be wrong, most of the goges are bottom geto stans as i observed…usually i blocked this group of ppl since most of their comments annoyed me.

it is not only bottom gojo is more than bottom geto on ao3 , i found out bottom gojo is much more than bottom geto in the getosuguru/gojosatoru tag as well, sometimes i have problems to identify the western fanart artists on x gego/goge /gegoge :sweat_smile: most of the gego fanart artists i am following are from japan. usually japanese fanart artist will mention what ship they are taking in their info for the shippers can not accept reverse or switch t/b.
i am the shipper can only accept fixed t/b once i join in a ship not only for gego , but also other ships i am taking.

芥见应该没说过。五夏又造谣了 :sweat_smile:

我還差點以為是真的 :upside_down_face:

so many of them hate gojo, it’s actually infuriating. at least among the goge stans in the western fancircle, they characterize gojo as only caring about suguru, he isn’t allowed to be his own character. they often claim he’s a bad teacher who doesn’t care about his students at all. they also say satoru is also a bad person for murdering all the higher ups because they get upset when people say suguru is the antagonist, so they need to drag satoru down too. it’s incomprehensible. they always laugh at him and call him a dog abandoned by its owner. they are just like the sorcerers in the original work, they only use him as a tool and don’t actually care about him. also you are right that most goges are bottom geto stans. to them, geto is a princess that can do no wrong, and nothing is his fault, he is the victim, and gojo is the evil one. i don’t understand it because he’s not even geto at that point. they like neither gojo nor geto’s true characters, they just like some made up version in their heads.

about gojo and geto’s separation, i don’t understand why geto fans are all so obsessed with saying the separation was gojo’s fault. it’s even a popular joke in the western fandom that “gojo fumbled geto”. gojo was also traumatized during that time period, he was the one who had been killed. not to mention he was being overworked as well. it’s neither of their faults.
i also try and block most of these users, but there’s so many of them, and if they block you but you don’t know about it, they can still quote retweet your posts to harass you without you being able to see.

i’m also someone that has a fixed shipping preference. i think most gegos are strict about fandom etiquette though, and will usually say in their bio with the xiawu characters, emojis, or “gego” to indicate their preference. if it’s not indicated, then that artist is most likely a switch shipper.

Yeap , I saw they did things you said on x. Chinese goges did the similar things too, but they were outnumbered by gojo only fans in China. I saw them called out by different parties on x, and they played victims after that .

For the character design of geto, you can easily find out there are many similar characters from other manga. Even though Gege expresses his character was designed base on sensui from yuyu hakusho. But I found geto more similar to itachi before he justified as a good brother by the author and light yagami from death note. All of them share an unrealistic idea. Itachi wanted to rid the world of ninjas according to the official fiction ( murdered parents) , light Yagami wanted to rid the world of bad people ( killed his father in an indirect way ) . His characterisation was nothing new and special for me.

Geto was not a total villain on some extent for the jutsushi society because his target was meant to save sorcerers from unnecessary sacrifices. His intention was good but applied in a wrong way. that was why Nanami said they could not blame him on that. Actually , I think most of peers from kousen understood him including Yaga and Shoko. But, he obviously failed to find out the corruption of the higher ups before he mistargeted on non-sorcerers. I could not blame on yuki too since it was their first encounter and yuki definitely didn’t know he was suffering from depression. The best way to achieve his goal is working with gojo and others to reform the system, you can tell he and gojo are designed to complement each other according to Gege’s character design. Gojo was not good with dealing people and it made him lost supporters to fight against the higher ups. But geto was designed to be a characteristic leader…

The geto stans are really losing their minds to blame on others for geto’s betrayal. But you will always found out their accusations contradicted.
I don’t think they are all blind to dismiss it, most of them just don’t give a shit to it.

I didn’t see such toxic fandom culture brought to other ship fandom in western countries and other shippers don’t care t/b as stsg. Since I found out the stupid battle pattern is too similar to Chinese goges and they brought up the Chinese yin yang theory to a manga created base on Japanese buddhism. I really doubt about the possibility of Chinese goges dragged their toxic fandom culture to x.

I am curious of when did the ship stared to act like that ? after the anime of s2 in last year or after the nurse joke brought out by Gege or it always acted in this way?

hello, sorry for late response! i completely agree with your analysis on geto’s character. actually, i was discussing with a friend the other day on how geto and gojo are each other’s foils. geto is a person with selfless desires, but selfish actions. for example, he had to have known no matter what he never would have been able to succeed in his plan to kill all non sorcerers, but he still was driven by his need to do something that would help his fellow sorcerers, which led to his defection. in turn, geto left behind people that arguably needed him more: shoko and gojo. his actions were ultimately selfish because they really didn’t change anything, and put even more strain on gojo’s workload and emotional state. some could even argue that his defection and subsequent death led to the destruction of shibuya and the culling games, since kenjaku’s plan was contingent on geto’s body being able to distract and contain gojo.

on the other hand, gojo is someone with more selfish desires, but selfless actions. he really doesn’t want to protect the weak like this, he wants to slaughter the higher ups, he wants geto at his side to be truly satisfied. but time and time again we see him put people first, to the point that in the end even his corpse was used and turned into a weapon with his consent. gojo is someone that wanted to live for himself, but always gave up his time, energy, and even body for others. i think these two are very interesting in this way.

also, about the toxic culture, it’s due to a few prominent people on twitter making a “geto is a canon female” post popular after the second season. one of these people was chased off vietnamese facebook for being too toxic. but on twitter, these accounts are supported by thousands of fans, and it seems for that side the more toxic they are the more popular they’ll be. it’s very pathetic behavior. just recently there was a fight about how they would bully anyone who says the voice actors opinions on characters are not canon materials (as the voice actors have no hand in writing anything from the manga to the script), but they insist the voice actors opinions are canon. all this while saying gojo’s body in the anime isn’t canon because he’s too skinny. there was even another popular goge account that proudly said they were redistributing unauthorized translated doujinshis because they were annoyed at gegos, but their comment section was just full of cheering. they’re disrespectful not only to other ships and fandoms, but even to their own artists.

the thing you said acctually happened in other fandom in china a lot when i saw they fighted. Being selected to accept infomation favor to their side and dismissed information not favor to their theories. but, i’ve never seen people dare to make up words or twisted words from the author to justify their theories. that is being insane on another level. for the translation of dojinishi, i really dont see people dare to do make up fake information to mislead others will care much about how the artists felt. they probably think they are promoting their work to be recognised by more people

i agreed with what said you about gego , that was one of the reason made geto be more easily sympathetic by readers/ audience. i saw more geto stans show up after season 2 of the anime. i saw they were called out quite frequently twitter even by people not belong to jjk fandom as well. they still don’t feel embarrassed themself being called out frequently, claimed they were being bullied or whatever.
the more fuck up part was they only see gojo as a tool to fxck geto and they were insane to claim gege did the same shit.
nanami was designed to be the one instead of geto to went crazy to masaccre his working peers in the first draft (get canceled by editors). geto did not even exist according to gege’s original blueprint. i dunno have you read it. but i am sure those geto stans dare to claim geto was designed to be more important than gojo deintitely didn’t.

https://imgur.com/a/jujutsu-sousen-tl-kun-translation-Y4DX1mK

people claimed Gege hate Gojo, i don’t agree with it. gojo is definitely not the character gege like the most. i think he just don’t like gojo fans. he is sick to abuse them by treating gojo in a way he did not deserve. after managa’s ending , a taiwanese tweet brought up a japanese tweet four years ago, the tweet owner claimed that she was being annoyed by the gojo only fans and Inumaki only fans, she wished gege would disappointed their fans. inumaki was quite popular in the previous character polls. gege made him disappared later

you can see gege actually has a different taste against his readers, maki and mei mei were not even popular according to the popularity polls. i even saw both of them were disliked by many ppl on twitter and on reddit. But, gege make them showed up alot later.